God Squad

Church v. State

“ground well-trodden by angels and fools.”
Date and TimeMonday, September 16, 2024 @ 12:00 pm
LocationWFSU Studios, 1600 Red Barber Plaza
The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia

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As we barrel toward America’s 250th, one could argue that if we crack up before we get there (some bad days we’d take even odds), it’ll have something to do with the complexity of being in charge of executing one of the founders’ biggest ideas — that the church and the state were to be separate in this new nation of theirs. (It had been so much “easier” when the king told all us peasants what religion we were.)

Our framers, for the first time in history, asserted that a citizenry had “natural rights” as human beings, given to them only by God, to follow (and be responsible for) our individual consciences — including the right to not believe at all. These rights could then not be taken by the government. Those dudes in tights, both Christian and Deist, had birthed a country where all sorts of religious belief would thrive.

Turns out high principles about freedom for everyone all at the same time wouldn’t be a piece of cake and after 250-ish years of disagreement, we’re still haggling over those darn specifics — partly because we’re masters of not seeing the log in our own eyes. Worse yet, about half of us believe that the “founding ideal” that should be operative is to protect us from the beliefs of other half of us — with many people of faith feeling their faith is not welcome in the public square, and non-Christians fearing a rising tide of openly-embraced Christian nationalism. Whatever could go wrong?

God Squad will be doing what they do best — saying what needs said, while throwing a little empathy and respect out into the universe for the people who just don’t see it their way. With a little more of their unique version of mutual respect spreading from sea to shining sea, in fact, might we make it to 300?

Facilitator

Latricia Scriven

Saint Paul’s United Methodist Church Senior Pastor
Panelist

Tim Holeda

Co-Cathedral of St. Thomas More Rector

Josh Hall

First Baptist Church Associate Pastor of Student Ministries
Panelist

Paul Sidlofsky

Temple Israel Rabbi
God Squad

Betsy Ouellette Zierden

Good Samaritan UMC Former Pastor
Panelist

Stefanie Posner

Temple Israel Director of Congregational Life & Learning
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